tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post2075904960702252996..comments2024-03-18T14:05:40.512+01:00Comments on DeltaPatents EQE blog: Results EQE main exam 2017 are outDeltaPatents EQE Blogshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13926591520841144736noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-60712815333031673452017-07-28T17:18:05.682+02:002017-07-28T17:18:05.682+02:00Or that the questions asked will from the syllabus...Or that the questions asked will from the syllabus. Can't find where it is stated in the FD1 syllabus that interim injunctions will be tested but they had it in a question in the 2016 paper regardless.Have button will pushnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-45927441745389383552017-07-28T15:36:37.667+02:002017-07-28T15:36:37.667+02:00Correct, FD1 is equivalent to paper D, but it'...Correct, FD1 is equivalent to paper D, but it's closed book! At least with the EQE you know that the answer is on the desk somewhere during the exam :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-22636746619807778942017-07-28T12:34:13.567+02:002017-07-28T12:34:13.567+02:00I don't think it's true that GB candidates...I don't think it's true that GB candidates pass the advanced UK papers prior to the EQE. I know a number of attorneys that passed the EQE before the UK papers because they had to resit UK papers more times than the EQE.<br /><br />It's widely acknowledged in the UK that the EQE is easier to pass largely for this reason. I think also the overlap with local law helps and IIRC UK candidates tend to have slightly lower (relative) pass rates on Paper C, probably reflecting the lack of an opposition procedure under UK law. <br /><br />I think EQE examiners are more lenient with marking though. You seem to get more marks for being able to argue a 'wrong' answer, whereas in the UK, you seem to get very little for arguing something the examiner's didn't want. The UK papers also seem to be written more ambiguously too, so it's often less clear what answer they are looking for. <br /><br />The FC1 2015 question recited above is from a foundation paper, and is worth a single mark. It's also from Part A of the paper which isn't particularly difficult (so long as you know the law, and remember, we don't have open book in the UK exams like the EQE, you have to know it off by heart - which actually may help UK candidates in the EQE as we then spend less time looking things up?). Part A is worth 40% of the paper in total. The remaining 60% for Part B involves more applied questions and obviously requires a decent stab in order to pass.<br /><br />While the foundation papers are easier than the EQE (they're more in line with the Pre-exam, and many UK candidates take one of the available university courses instead of the foundation exams here anyway), the advanced papers, which are equivalent to the EQE, tend to have lower pass rates than the EQE equivalents for UK candidates. <br /><br />For 2015 as mentioned above - the pass rate for that FC1 (foundation paper) was 90%. For the advanced FD1 law paper (cf paper D) the pass rate was 58%. Same year paper D for UK candidates? 80%. (I'm ignoring the compensable fail because the UK system doesn't have this).<br /><br />AKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-81826685086118354772017-07-27T19:32:47.238+02:002017-07-27T19:32:47.238+02:00@Unknown - that is a question from a UK foundation...@Unknown - that is a question from a UK foundation level paper - I am talking about the advanced level papers (FD), which are much more difficult.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-39345804718824437132017-07-27T17:36:23.609+02:002017-07-27T17:36:23.609+02:00There is a rumor that German graders are more fuss...There is a rumor that German graders are more fussy and less willing to give a point when in doubt. Also, a DP tutor mentioned that the German language requires you to write about 30% more - which will give you a setback in an exam where time management is the essence.<br />But if it is really the case that "all" GB candidates pass an exam the October before with apparently so much overlap with local law compared to EPC, so that it prepares you for the EQE rather than confuse you, than that certainly is an advantage. Whether it is more difficult or not should not matter in that case, as long as it makes you study the same stuff. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-21261958059395735882017-07-27T16:51:45.602+02:002017-07-27T16:51:45.602+02:00In my view (and experience) the UK papers are much...In my view (and experience) the UK papers are much more difficult than the EQEs, it is rare for candidates to pass all UK Finals papers first time, whereas it is fairly common to pass all 4 EQEs – the technology is simpler in EQEs, the language is less complicated and arguably there is less time pressure. EQEs also have more ‘crank the handle’ type answers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-69291760137030975542017-07-27T15:13:29.349+02:002017-07-27T15:13:29.349+02:00Typical example of a FC1 question (2015):
"Y...Typical example of a FC1 question (2015):<br /><br />"You have filed a UK patent application. It does not claim priority. What prior art effect do the following documents have:<br /><br />a) A UK application with a filing and publication date before the filing date of your application?"<br /><br />UK exam more difficult than EQE? Give us a break! :-)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12044096481149057032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-7351964021146216282017-07-27T12:49:08.976+02:002017-07-27T12:49:08.976+02:00I think it is unfair to simply state that the UK n...I think it is unfair to simply state that the UK nationals are more difficult. As posted above the variance in marks awarded reduces the quality of the exam and contributes to a feeling of them being a lottery.<br /><br />I would say, although I know nothing of the other national qualification systems, that the EQEs have broad parallels with the UK nationals so they are not as alien to UK entrants as to perhaps entrants from nations with significantly different exam systems.<br /><br />Is language still an issue for entrants from nations other than GB, FR, DE? Everyone I meet normally has a really good grasp of English and really puts my miserable excuse for knowledge of French and German to shame.Have button will pushnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-55914414122844277342017-07-27T00:38:21.138+02:002017-07-27T00:38:21.138+02:00We sit the GB qualifying exams the October before ...We sit the GB qualifying exams the October before - those exams are generally considered to be more difficult than the EQEs, so GB candidates tend to be well prepared.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-20972001808322567302017-07-25T11:34:33.876+02:002017-07-25T11:34:33.876+02:00I noticed that GB candidates (nationality and plac...I noticed that GB candidates (nationality and place of residence) have relatively high pass rate for all exams. What are your secrets?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-7344867579003096372017-07-25T10:31:13.902+02:002017-07-25T10:31:13.902+02:00Anyone know how long it normally takes for your na...Anyone know how long it normally takes for your name to appear on the list of representatives? I've sent the form in and keep checking the EPO website, but if it takes weeks I guess I'm wasting my time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-7667632801719019792017-07-10T17:05:24.737+02:002017-07-10T17:05:24.737+02:00Deltapatents tutors - will you be posting your tho...Deltapatents tutors - will you be posting your thoughts on the Examiner's reports?<br /><br />JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-42623186932388064972017-07-05T17:35:34.407+02:002017-07-05T17:35:34.407+02:00they are public nowthey are public nowAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-68218053373054121872017-07-05T13:47:03.330+02:002017-07-05T13:47:03.330+02:00End of next week. CheersEnd of next week. CheersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-56549618932165502182017-07-05T12:57:27.602+02:002017-07-05T12:57:27.602+02:00Anyone knows when the Examiners Report will be pub...Anyone knows when the Examiners Report will be published? thanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-83645314568244666102017-07-04T17:29:28.608+02:002017-07-04T17:29:28.608+02:00My 2 cent about the D Part
We got extra 30 minutes...My 2 cent about the D Part<br />We got extra 30 minutes for what? The complexity of the content was increased, too (more text, more fuzzy details). In the end, the 30 min extra are for nothing - just more pain ... <br /><br />Passed, B and C, missed D only by some points .... <br />Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-62514238689504625162017-07-04T17:02:49.513+02:002017-07-04T17:02:49.513+02:00I do not believe Paper B was a well drafted paper ...I do not believe Paper B was a well drafted paper because it appears that it allowed too many possible ‘correct’ answers which in my opinion was not the intention of the rejigged Paper B. This is reflected by a high (+CF) pass rate of 82%. I used D2 as CPA and still passed with marks to spare even though I suspect that D2 was not intended to be the CPA…..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-70733035898957015602017-07-04T13:40:28.639+02:002017-07-04T13:40:28.639+02:00I meant in paper A, sorry..I meant in paper A, sorry..spatentsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-61550111001295677472017-07-04T13:36:40.186+02:002017-07-04T13:36:40.186+02:00I had all attacks right in paper C and and I did q...I had all attacks right in paper C and and I did quite an extensive arguing, and<br />got only 45 points? At least I have passed:)<br />In paper B, I missed 10 microns limit and I failed:(spatentsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-55488509714016045632017-07-03T14:11:06.679+02:002017-07-03T14:11:06.679+02:00In paper C I have everything according to the delt...In paper C I have everything according to the delta-patents solution, expect the attacks on claim 2 and 4, and I missed it!?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-91311375135746041632017-07-02T21:24:13.401+02:002017-07-02T21:24:13.401+02:00I missed Paper C by a single point for a cf. What ...I missed Paper C by a single point for a cf. What is the criterium for checking if one is fit for practice? Anonymushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12370730778759248772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-75648452183683784652017-07-01T22:00:04.719+02:002017-07-01T22:00:04.719+02:00@StockholmSmile Thanks for the graphs - I am not s...@StockholmSmile Thanks for the graphs - I am not sure what it should look like for an exam. Paper A looks strange.EQEpassx4noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-91920110436483682972017-07-01T21:56:07.473+02:002017-07-01T21:56:07.473+02:00... or even 20 points... or even 20 pointsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-47764066827913447352017-07-01T21:55:04.504+02:002017-07-01T21:55:04.504+02:00Then the passing rate would be 65% - passes & ...Then the passing rate would be 65% - passes & compensable fails would be eve higher add up to 75%.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-84487961586149395322017-07-01T21:44:03.932+02:002017-07-01T21:44:03.932+02:00Here: saltedpatent.blogspot.nl/2017/07/congratulat...Here: saltedpatent.blogspot.nl/2017/07/congratulations-to-all-those-who-passed.htmlStockholmSmilenoreply@blogger.com