tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post7520426481226230799..comments2024-03-18T14:05:40.512+01:00Comments on DeltaPatents EQE blog: Annual meeting of EQE tutors and members of the EQE committees ("Tutor meeting") on EQE 2022 - Dates and registrationDeltaPatents EQE Blogshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13926591520841144736noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-24302032154208101162023-01-04T11:46:55.552+01:002023-01-04T11:46:55.552+01:00I read this post on Salted Patent blog where seems...I read this post on Salted Patent blog where seems that EPO, despite 2 billion € of revenue in a year seem to not have funds to arrange EQE for patent attorneys. <br />https://saltedpatent.blogspot.com/2022/10/some-history-eqe-costs-in-2008-ca13908.html?sc=1672827782331#c6447548229700645417Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-9842767632125226122022-12-30T11:18:15.492+01:002022-12-30T11:18:15.492+01:00And what are the outcomes. What will the committee...And what are the outcomes. What will the committee take on board and change. Its not clear from the report at all.<br />There doesn't seem to be any substantial discussions between committee and tutors recorded (especially for A, B and C) and just a summary of the content of the papers.JRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-53567501986094916612022-12-30T11:15:02.321+01:002022-12-30T11:15:02.321+01:00A bit disappointed that not many queries and quest...A bit disappointed that not many queries and questions were submitted. Paper A 2022 was especially questionable this year. I do not agree it was the same content as previous years and it also heavily favoured life science colleagues who deal with product by process claims on a much regular basis in their jobs than others.<br /><br />I agree with earlier comments. The committee should accept and allow sitting candidates to participate in these events. Maybe there would have been more questions, queries and challenges of the papers.JRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-1194217677856541762022-12-21T08:44:43.901+01:002022-12-21T08:44:43.901+01:00Yes, since a few days:
HTML of the Report at http...Yes, since a few days: <br />HTML of the Report at https://information.patentepi.org/issue-4-2022/tutors-report-on-the-eqe-2022.html or<br />PDF (full issue at) https://information.patentepi.org/uploads/pdf/epi-Information-04-2022.pdf)Roel van Woudenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15823355175016282250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-59818859656330609692022-12-20T20:27:00.724+01:002022-12-20T20:27:00.724+01:00Are the epi Information 4/2022 notes available yet...Are the epi Information 4/2022 notes available yet? Gregoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00543766133391538362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-69835584564458034262022-12-03T16:00:46.300+01:002022-12-03T16:00:46.300+01:00I agree with Sydney, this year too paper A has 4-5...I agree with Sydney, this year too paper A has 4-5 independent claim, plus the device was claimed in use. These are the reports that future Patent attorneys will have to train with. Hope they never have be in a court for a counterfeiting action.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-38755911282991733142022-10-31T14:49:40.925+01:002022-10-31T14:49:40.925+01:00I would like to see more challenges to the exam co...I would like to see more challenges to the exam committee on what they are testing, why? and how is it related to real life practices. <br /><br />For example, why do the exam committee felt the need to have 5 or 6 independent claims for paper A in 2021. I can understand a device and a corresponding method claim. They then had a method of making paper sheet, a product by process claim. In real practice, this does not appear to be a sensible approach to claim drafting. It also favors biotech attorneys... Sydneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-3612226370278787482022-10-31T10:40:04.603+01:002022-10-31T10:40:04.603+01:00Its great that there is a meeting that takes place...Its great that there is a meeting that takes place but I can also understand candidates frustrations where many candidates (rightly or wrongly) do not feel that improvements/issues have been fully taken into account. <br /><br />For example, wiseflow has been a terrible introduction into the e-EQE system. There are many other IT solutions, like the PEBX system in the UK, that are much better. As I know, most candidates are against the terrible wiseflow system as it is inflexible, impracticable and the papers (especially C) does not work with the platform. <br /><br />If these meetings really do take into account candidates experiences and views about the papers, then surely the platform to take the exams itself are discussed. In addition, many candidates feel that paper B (and to some extent paper A) are going beyond the remit of what it is required to be tested. The subject matter of Paper B is not line with being fair to all background of the candidate as an example. <br /><br />I'm just sharing the fact that not all candidates feel these meetings have any impact. That may be correct or incorrect but we don't see any actual outcomes from these meetings, any points/actions put into place for future exams apart from a summary of what was discussed. Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-5958128582358522582022-10-25T10:42:16.090+02:002022-10-25T10:42:16.090+02:00I found a good progress this years spreading paper...I found a good progress this years spreading papers in 2 weeks since we don' have a frontal exam anymore there is no use to have all 4 papers in a row in 4 days.<br />In my opinion new e-EQE papers should be taken twice in a year maybe splitting papers A-B in some date, C-D maybe six month later. <br />Unless you accept to schedule it in 2 year o more (plus a year for pre-exam), sitting all papers in the same time is a hard mental and physical stress. <br />I think spread it should be helpful for a better planning of the massive load of study you need.<br />It is understandable too a little bit of frustration of fellow candidates who didn't pass papers and faced IT issues.Stefannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-21515840864366059842022-10-24T12:57:57.160+02:002022-10-24T12:57:57.160+02:00Why do you consider tutors not to represent candid...Why do you consider tutors not to represent candidates?<br /><br />By the way, please do not post your comments anonymously but use your name so that we can communicate more easily and pleasantly. And I cannot represent an "anonymous" ;)Roel van Woudenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15823355175016282250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-15848963401546573762022-10-23T20:41:39.356+02:002022-10-23T20:41:39.356+02:00My opinion is that there are no representatives fr...My opinion is that there are no representatives from students that attend these meetings. Why not. They are stakeholders but only tutors and examiners are invited as far as I understood. Just seem like a closed group meeting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-81008260899467231762022-10-21T09:17:42.108+02:002022-10-21T09:17:42.108+02:00Hope you fired them allHope you fired them allAndynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-44604500245760749062022-10-13T11:53:13.072+02:002022-10-13T11:53:13.072+02:00This is reassuring because I'm just already te...This is reassuring because I'm just already terrified that something could go wrong sitting next EQE.Cursed Candidatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-827102203356797462022-10-13T11:19:21.639+02:002022-10-13T11:19:21.639+02:00Some tutors did, I think about 5 per main exam pap...Some tutors did, I think about 5 per main exam paper, since many years and also in the last two online EQEs The epi invites tutors in advance and then selects a few. Unfortunately the opportunity was not given not for the Pre-Exam.<br />Tutors can also register for the Wiseflow Mocks, so that they can also test the system and get familiar with it. DeltaPatents always gives feedback, directly to the EQE Secretariat and on our blogs, which often led to imporovements and./or FAQ items.Roel van Woudenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15823355175016282250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-60109932232791574382022-10-13T11:00:25.635+02:002022-10-13T11:00:25.635+02:00I believe that it would be very helpful if some of...I believe that it would be very helpful if some of you tutor guys would be appointed to sit EQE as external observer, in order to monitoring the flow of system and give a real-time feedback even to invigilators which I found completely helpless, and even later to give a proof because my complaints this year were completely ignored and I had any evidence of that.Coursed Candidatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-27850309204809849472022-10-11T16:20:40.095+02:002022-10-11T16:20:40.095+02:00I do not agree.
1) It is not only about getting ...I do not agree. <br /><br />1) It is not only about getting things changed - it is also about understanding of the papers, the answering and the marking - which tutors can then share with new candidates. <br />2) Many feedback from earlier meeting did lead to changes. <br />3) There is a proposal for a New EQE, exactly because it was recognized that an online exam platform is not well suited for the current style of exam papers. The online exams of 2021 and 2022 had to compromise - exam design takes a long time and changing the exam regulations as well. Compromises are by definition not perfect... so we have to deal with these compromises until all boundary conditions get us to a new optimum (I think it is fair to consider the exams before 2019 to be an optimum, but even that had a compromise: you had to write it by hand, on paper, and were not allowed to use your main daily life tool, i.e. a computer).<br />4) The meeting is not the only place where stakeholders have influence - there is also the official channels, emails to the secretariat, complaints and appeals if on specific matters, communication from candidates via tutors, from candidates and tutors to and via epi, ... If you do not want to participate in any channel, fine, but if others find it useful, I suggest you respect that. Roel van Woudenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15823355175016282250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-679018012520334708.post-83390191126574483842022-10-11T15:27:36.026+02:002022-10-11T15:27:36.026+02:00What's the point in discussing when nothing re...What's the point in discussing when nothing really changes. Papers A, B and C are not fit on wiseflow and candidates have been saying this for some time. Nothing changes with these meetings. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com